October 10, 2005

Yeah, I Take Issue....

This kind of shit just kills me. The ACLU has an affiliate site/blog up titled, "Take Issue, Take Charge" and their latest crusade is "protecting your reproductive freedom" which is such a joke to me because they say the Abstinence-Only-Until-Marriage Curricula is DANGEROUS! Yes, that's right, they said DANGEROUS!

Oh my, choosing NOT to have sex before marriage is just terrible and DANGEROUS according to the dumbasses at your ACLU.
According to a recent report prepared for Representative Henry A. Waxman (D-CA), many abstinence-only-until-marriage curricula used by federally funded programs contain false and misleading information and perpetuate harmful stereotypes. Perhaps most alarmingly, these curricula misrepresent the effectiveness of contraceptives by vastly understating the effectiveness of condoms at protecting against sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) and preventing unintended pregnancy. Such misinformation is particularly alarming given that each year in the United States, nearly 9.1 million 15-24 year olds are infected with an STD and more than 800,000 15-19 year olds become pregnant.

Well, does the ACLU know the meaning of abstinence? Hello? I bet the ACLU has stock in Trojan, or some other condom manufacturer.

Not only is the cirriculum dangerous according to the ACLU, but it appears to be unsafe as well....
ACLU affiliates in 18 states called on local officials to keep unsafe abstinence-only-until-marriage programs out of the classroom.

Yeah, no sense in teaching this DANGEROUS and UNSAFE course to students. No, let's not teach them something like abstinence for crying out loud. For the ACLU being all big on choice, they sure don't want our kids to have a choice in abstinence.

Here's a clue as to WHY they don't want this abstinence taught in the classroms...
“For too long the federal government has funded abstinence-only-until-marriage curricula that are based on ideology and religion rather than science,” said Jennifer McAllister-Nevins, State Strategies Attorney for the ACLU Reproductive Freedom Project and Not In My State campaign coordinator.

Anti-Christian group that the ACLU is, there ya have it. They don't care anything about the abstinence being taught, it's the moral standards supporting abstinence in which they take issue.

Hey, here's a thought...if the ACLU is so much for my choice then why not teach both and let the parents decide which course their child will sign up for? I personally do NOT want sex education taught in schools period, because of crap like the ACLU pulling right now. I am very capable of teaching my own child about the birds and the bees, thank you very much.

Another reason the ACLU is up in arms about the abstinence program being taught in schools...
In addition, many of these programs promote gender stereotypes, discriminate against gay and lesbian youth and all too often proselytize on the public’s dime.
There you have it, not only are they anti-christian but they are anti-heterosexual.

Full Load Of Crap

This whole thing started over at Merri's Musing by the way. Although she is talking about some other program they want taught in public schools; a little course about tolerating homosexuality - go read it!

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12 Comments:

Blogger Merri said...

Thanks so much for the linkie love!!! For more reading on the whole ACLU "We hate Abstinence" party, I have another post about this from my local perspective: http://merrimusings.typepad.com/merri_musings/2005/09/the_aclu_are_th.html These people are over the top, I say. I wonder if you start screaming that your civil liberties have been violated - and it is because of morals and beliefs - if the ACLU actually would hear you???

10/10/2005 06:53:00 PM

 
Blogger Merri said...

That darn link! Here it is again?

http://merrimusings.typepad.com/merri_musings/2005/09/the_aclu_are_th.html

If that doesn't work, let me know and I'll email it to you. Darn it!

10/10/2005 06:54:00 PM

 
Blogger My Kid's Mom said...

This is a "hot topic" with me for three reasons - 1) my 17 year old daughter, 2) my 14 year old daughter, 3) I see the effects of this when teenage girls come into my office and tell me how badly they feel because they are sexually active. Most of them report that they didn't want to have sex until they were engaged/married, but because everybody else is "doing it", and because their MOMS essentially gave them permission to have sex when told they could go on the pill, they felt it was expected and acceptable for them to do so. So, with "MOMS" (??) like that, what's a girl to do??

10/10/2005 08:51:00 PM

 
Blogger Ginger Winchester said...

If I may play devil's advocate for a second and provide an opposing opinion - just for the sake of creating a new viewpoint: Abstinence is basically like saying that sex is not for the purpose of enjoyment, but for the purpose of pro-creation, since the question of protection can now become a hot-button issue within the confines of a marriage (how many children to have, and when to have them; to wait or not to wait). The realm of sex becomes something rather Victorian - a taboo - and the only one who has any enjoyment in the act is the man (as time will prove). Women don't usually masturbate, but men do it all the time - and usually don't tell the wife (who will imediately accuse him of "abusing his body").

Where does it all go from there? Do you immediately expect to support a kajillion kids on a low-one-earner income? Or do you drop the whole new-political-correctness attitude and finally use protection, enjoy sex mutually, and secretly enjoy a little porn...now and then (can I say that??).

Just a thought.

10/10/2005 09:21:00 PM

 
Blogger The Gray Tie said...

Miss Ginger, that is all fine and well what you write.

However, we are talking about kids in school. In my little opinion they are NOT supposed to be ENJOYING sex. They are KIDS. That is the point of abstinence before marriage.

As far as masturbation...well...what century are you living in? I do know how to enjoy myself.

I don't think the realm of sex has become taboo at all, not with the likes of the ACLU around. How many 15 or 16 year old girls can have abortion WITHOUT having to tell parents? Taboo? I think not.

But thanks for stopping by and commenting, your opinion is always welcome here. Love it when someone makes me think.

10/11/2005 04:58:00 AM

 
Blogger janet said...

I'm still belly laughing over abstinence not being science based. I'm pretty sure you can't get pregnant if you're abstinent without outside intervention. And I'm fairly certain that statisically, the rate of sexually transmitted diseases is likely to drop as well. You can throw in some exceptions to that rule, but overall? Come on...

And as for saying abstinence creates a taboo. Is it so unbelievably difficult to believe that abstinence enhances the enjoyment of sex when it's between two consenting adults? Our children are rushing into situations they are not emotionally developed enough to handle. That's not opinion, it's been shown psychologically for many years now. We don't let kids drive cars until a certain age because of biology, cognition, and emotional readiness lining up together. But we're going to passively endorse activities that are so life-changing, most adults don't handle them well? What about the baggage they bring into later relationships, and they do bring it. And it does drastically impact sexual pleasure and activity in many individuals. Particularly when many (young girls, especially) enter into these "relationships" at such early ages because they're actively searching for supplemental male attention.

How can any of those scenarios enhance and promote sexual enjoyment? They can't.

Passing out condoms doesn't solve anything. It puts an extremely poor bandage on underlying problems that will continue to go unaddressed for years to come unless we look beneath the symptoms to the roots of the problem.

10/11/2005 08:49:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you read the ACLU statement again, you can see they're not demanding that abstinence not be taught in classrooms, but that teachers have the correct information and teach it as part of a balanced course. This balance includes the teaching of other methods of contraception because studies show that this is more beneficial to the students.

I think there's a real dearth of human relationships in sex ed. Nobody tells you sex is part of a healthy, loving relationship when you're mature enough to understand and appreciate that. All the sex ed I had was "these are all the diseases you can catch, so don't do it." Teenagers couldn't care less about that sort of stuff. They'll do it regardless, because they're biologically programmed to want it!

10/13/2005 08:53:00 AM

 
Blogger judeandelise said...

To the Anonymous poster... I suspect you have never actually sat through an abstinence program. That, you only know what you know from second hand sources and your own agenda. Abstinence programs (at least the national program I teach) do teach that sex is a healthy part of a relationship. I have never asked kids to fear sex. I have, however, told them of the consequences (STD's, unplanned pregnancy, broken heart, bad reputation, low self-esteem, etc...)of sexual activity. Do you really know what teens are like??? Have you ever taken the time to talk to a group of inner city 12 & 13 year olds? It is so sad. They are having sex so casually because they have been told by society & the media that sex feels good. I have kids tell me all the time they do it because they just want to know how it feels! The problem with teaching all the contraceptive options to adolescents is this...they aren't responsible enough to use them. They aren't mature enough to talk about sexual activity with adults. And, maybe you have been misinformed as well, condoms provide little to no protection from diseases like HPV (genital warts) and Herpes. They are from skin to skin contact! So, even if kids were using them they aren't protecting them. Condoms were invented to prevent pregnancy. If you don't believe me call the CDC yourself and ask them. I love the program I teach and guess what...the kids enjoy it too. They listen, participate and walk away with a better knowlegde of their own sexuality.

Other than that...Gray Tie, you are now on my bookmarks (you too Merri!) Don't worry you will be hearing from me again.

10/14/2005 06:54:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As stated in the February 1999 Statement to the Hague by Ambassador Lars-Olaf Edstrom, "Improved and more accessible sex education is one of the rights of young people. Sex education should include issues related to respect for each other, values and attitudes, gender and equality, anatomy, growing up, young people's self-esteem, feelings and love. But sex education is not enough. If it is to be effective in preventing unwanted pregnancies and STD's, it has to be combined with youth-friendly services and information."

Teens are especially vulnerable to messages that pull them in the direction of experimenting with sex, and that is because in this society, they see sexually suggestive media all the time. They also hear of other teens who are having sex, and may feel peer pressure to participate themselves. I agree that in a perfect world, teens would abstain from sex until marriage; however, we don't live in a perfect world. I feel that the best compromise to the issue is to have comprehensive sexual education in schools that includes all aspects of sexuality, including abstinence.

When it comes to parental concern, many schools, if not most or all, give parents the oppotunity to withdraw their child(ren) from a sex ed class. Given that choice, parents can decide whether they want their children to receive comprehensive sexual education in school, or if they would be more comfortable discussing sex with their children without school interference.

As with anything, the most important thing is to provide teenagers with as much information about the issue as possible so that they can make informed decisions. I agree that many teens are getting into sexual relationships before they are mature enough to handle them, and that many teens probably are not comfortable talking one-on-one with an adult about their sex lives. After all, it is a deeply personal issue. However, by providing comprehensive and complete sexual education, teens should feel comfortable at least knowing where they CAN obtain condoms, and hopefully even contraception, as well as places they can turn to for support (whether they choose abstinence or sex).

No one deserves to be ignorant about anything as life-altering as sex, especially when ignorance can have such devestating consequences as HIV/AIDS. Someone previously mentioned HPV and genital herpes, and these are also serious infections. Teens shouldn't be taught that condoms don't protect against these infections, though. They should be taught that using the male condom correctly greatly reduces the chances of becoming infected with HIV/AIDS as well as other sexually transmitted bacterial and viral STI's, and that using a dental dam during oral sex or a female condom during vaginal intercourse can provide even greater (though certainly not 100%) protection against HPV and herpes because of the greater area of skin they cover. Of course they should be taught that abstinence is the only 100% effective way to avoid contracting infections or becoming pregnant, but they should not be denied information about safer sex. After all, once married, people need to be able to choose when they want to have children...and if they have only been taught that they must practice abstinence until marriage, will they know about contraceptives once they are married and become sexually active?

Above all, teens should feel competent in their ability to choose what is right for themselves as individuals, and providing misleading or one-sided information does them a great disservice. We expect children and teens to acquire broad academic knowledge...shouldn't we also expect them to acquire broad practical knowledge?

10/25/2005 09:24:00 PM

 
Blogger Morgoth Slayer said...

it seems to me, almost as if the ACLU wants kids to have sex. Cant see any reason behind that, but thats what im picking up on.

11/28/2005 01:35:00 PM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a 19 year old and a recent graduate of a public high school in pennsylvania, I went through 6 years of sex eduation at school. I have been having sex since I was 15 and I am very thankful that I learned proper safety at a young age and continued learning about sexaul safety throughout school. My teachers were wonderful and very informative. The curiculum in my district taught abstinence as the most effective option of birth control and disease prevention, but more importantly the courses focused on if you plan on or are already engaged in sex what to do and how to prevent STDs and unwanted pregnancy. I don't understand why there is such a debate on this subject. Pre-marital sex is going to happen no matter how much anyone tries to prevent it so why shouldn't youth be taught how to prevent themselves from getting pregnant and preventing the spread of disease. It is blantly dumb to assume that just because absitence is taught that teens will forego having sex.

12/02/2005 10:53:00 AM

 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you have missed the point of this article. The ACLU is advocating for comprehensive sex education programs which do in fact teach about abstinence. The part they say is dangerous is the misinformation some abstinence-only programs give about contreception and not the idea of abstinence itself. I think it is excellent that you plan to, or do, have an open dialouge with your children regarding sex and your expectations and wishes for them concerning your family's moral and religious views. But I think it is important not to let those very personal religious views spill over onto other people who may not share them. If there are going to be sex education programs taught in public schools they should be neutral and provide facts and not morals. Public schools teach such a broad range of students from various backgrounds. The people responsible for those backgrounds, the parents, should be responsible for the moral part of the lesson.

12/05/2005 05:36:00 AM

 

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